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(Banging sound. Sobbing)

Det.: Ms Frammer, I think maybe … Ms Frammer: No! You don't get it! You don't believe me! I need to go home! Sadie will get too far away to come back if I take too long. Please!

Oh my God. I'm such an idiot for not burning that damn doll when I first thought something was wrong. I should have crushed it or something.

I should have done something! Sadie was just so happy, you know, and I didn't want to break that in her again. I should have done something!

(Sobbing)

Ms Frammer: Andie is still in the house detective. She's still there, I know she is. And she knows where my Sadie is. I have to get Andie to tell me how to get her back, don't you understand?

There's still time. I honestly think that I can still get Sadie back, no I know I can!

Or, oh dear god, what if that woman with the dolls maybe has her? You know, I've been going over it all in my head and I think I know where Andie's hiding at right now. I didn't see it clearly before but I can now.

Det.: Ms Frammer, I think you need to calm down now. Please come sit back down. Okay, I think I've heard enough now. I need to file some paperwork and make a phone call. I'll only be gone for just a few minutes. I will be right back.

Ms Frammer: You don't believe me. I know how this sounds, I really do. Don't try to placate the crazy woman detective. I've seen the TV shows, I know how this works and you have no real reason to hold me. Please, just let me go home. I need to find Sadie,

I don't want her to become one of those dolls. If I can just get to Andie or get to that lady, then you'll see. You'll understand and believe me when you see it for yourself. Please!

(Door shutting)

Ms Frammer: Damn it! Why won't you listen to me? Please, I just need to go home for a short time and then you can keep me here all night if you want. Hello? Hello?

(Banging sound. Heavy sobbing)

Ms Frammer: Andie, please! God, help me! Give her back!

Detective! You have to tell people! You have to warn them! Detective Frank! HELLO?

Oh my God!

[Recording stop]

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Recording File#: SLCPD30055-W

TRNSCRPT d.o.o. et al.

1:09-cv-00751; filed November 16, 2005 in the District Court of Utah

Josephine F. Alder, Salt Lake County,

Salt Lake Utah Department of Corrections